Category: Debates I’ve had with Friends


Remember when you could turn on the TV and see shows that were genuinely entertaining? Some of them even tried to offer a look at proper family values and problem solving? The Crosby Show is one of the first ones to pop to mind, even though that’s an old one. Heck, even shows like CSI are entertaining in their own right.

Then…reality TV came along…and television went to hell in a handbasket. Unfortunately, this type of programming could have been quashed early on, but some people actually like it. To my dismay, a lot of people like it. I don’t get it. I think of shows like…

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and I’m literally disgusted. I’m disgusted that producers make shows like this, and I’m ashamed that so many people LIKE shows like this that they are taking over the airwaves. What in the hell is wrong with people? When did it become a good thing to WATCH people cheat, lie, backstab, get stupid drunk, get into fights, live in excess and generally be poor examples of humanity? How did this become okay? Is this really what you want your kids to grow up seeing on the telly? Is THIS the type of thing you want them to learn from? And face it, they will learn. You can feed me or yourself all the crap you want about how ‘they don’t see that much’ or whatever… children see. Whether its at your house or someone elses…they see….and they emulate.

We have people starving in America. People homeless. We have so many things that money could be put to good use for…and instead we have people getting paid thousands of dollars to be their natural douche-bag selves on television…and we like it? I’m…almost speechless. I say almost because I’m obviously still writing this post, so I do have something to say.

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Why was this so popular? Man and woman already have two kids…decide to have more. Have 6 more. Because all know they made so much money they were obviously going to be able to care for all those kids. They can’t. They get a TV show. We get to watch… husband and wife fighting, and kids fighting, and husband and wife fighting, and kids fighting…and normal household crap… and they get paid obscene amounts of money for it. Why are we, as a public, sending the message that this entertaining, and worth watching? How is this possibly worth watching? How can we think it is okay to watch something like this so that we can sit back and look down on them? Does it make us feel better to see this? To think ‘well, at least our lives aren’t this bad?” I genuinely want to know, because I do not get it.

I was thinking of reasons why this has become okay, and started thinking about the fact that I can’t recall the last time Hollywood produced an original movie. That train of thought led me to a few articles I’ve read here and there about how imagination/creativity is dying off in kids. How we’ve become so focused on success, success, success that we’ve neglected to allow our children to have time to imagine, to create, to PLAY. Not do educational play, not play sports…but just to play. To dress up in Mommy’s shoes, or daddy’s shirts, wander around the house with a wooden spoon, bopping things on the head, and proclaiming “Abba-cadaba! You’re a cat!”

Recently, I was at the hospital with L, and they had given her a bucket of crayons to entertain her. The nurse said she’d be right back with some coloring pages. Well, it was taking a while, so I grabbed a napkin, spread it out… and L and I colored on that. When the nurse came in with the coloring pages, I started to fold up the napkin and throw it away. She immediately stopped me and said “No, no! That’s a wonderful thing! What you’re doing is great!” I must have given her an odd look because she went on to explain that giving a kid some crayons and a blank piece of paper is one of the best things you can do to encourage creativity. That we place so much emphasis on applauding when the kids color inside the lines and stuff that we forget to let them just have fun and make things up. When I told her that this blank page coloring was a regular thing at our house, she looked amazed and… very proud.

That blows my mind. That that type of thing is apparently so rare that the nurse would look amazed. At our house, we have washable crayons and markers and things like that. It is nothing for me to pull back the curtain on our glass-front door and hand L some washable crayons. I let her go to town on it. I’m right there, handing her colors, and encouraging her to scribble and have fun. Occasionally I work in the ABCs or her name to try to teach her something. At the same time, she’s also learning to clean up after herself, because I keep a pack of baby-wipes at hand to clean as we go.  She actually gets mad if I don’t let her do the cleaning herself.

I can’t wait until she’s a little older, where she truly gets in to imagining things. I know I will be one of those moms who is running around the backyard with her, looking like an idiot as we ‘shoot’ space aliens, or play dress up with and have tea parties. I will encourage silliness, imagination, and play. I will not raise my daughter with the expectation that everything she does has to be a learning experience. I want her to do well, but I also know that she is a child and she deserves to have time to be a child.

In our house, we don’t watch regular programming anymore. We have netflix instant, so I can control what we see. L gets to watch an episode or two of Dora or the Backyardigans a day. Most of the time, though, L and I (or L and my boyfriend) are having fun together.  Kyle reads Lily a story every night before he puts her to bed. We don’t really yell at L when she makes messes. In fact, I’m generally helping her make the mess. Today I had to sop up water on the kitchen floor because she was bugging me about wanting to wash her hands, so I turned on the water, picked up the kitchen sprayer, and hosed her down. She looked like a drowned rat, but she had fun, I had fun, and it took me two minutes to clean it up.

I am in no way saying that I am the perfect mom. I’m not. Kyle is a better parent that I am. I am simply stating that I think we, as a whole, have forgotten the value of just being silly and having good old-fashioned fun with our children, and I have to wonder if part of what we are seeing on TV could be, in part, a reflection of that.

Okay, I’m stepping off my soapbox now.

Would you consider yourself a good person? I think there are very few people that would NOT answer yes to that question, even if others who knew them would say no. Are you a great person? I’m sure a few people would answer yes to this one too.

Are you a bad person? I can’t think of a single person, off the bat, who would say they were a bad person. Are you a horrible person?  Again, who would willingly identify themselves as a horrible person?

I started thinking about this yesterday, as I was toweling off after a shower. I would consider myself a good person, but… am I really?

How do you tell the difference between a great person, a good person, a bad person, and a horrible person?

First off, who do we consider great? Now, obviously I’m not speaking for everyone, but I think there are a few people that we can universally acknowledge as being ‘great’.

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Well, after much discussion with one of my friends (K), we came up with a few basic things to measure. It was originally used to measure the difference between a great person and a good person, but it works just as well to measure the difference between a horrible person and a bad person.

These aren’t necessarily in any particular order.

1. Impact on others

2. Size of population impacted

3. Intention

4. Result

5. Lens through which the person is viewed

  • Community Lens (ie: How a participating member of the Nazi army might have viewed Hitler vs a Jew fearing persecution.)
  • Known Lens (ie: Angelina Jolie’s every movie is practically shouted from the roof-tops by paparazzi. Joe Schmoe on the street? Not so much.)
  • Time Lens (The time from when an event took place to when it is evaluated can, but does not always, change the view that we have on that event. In the time that Jesus was doing his thing, he probably pissed a lot of people off, and was considered a pain the in the ass. Now? Jesus is considered to be a great man.)

K and I had a pretty good debate about this. Here are some scenarios that we used to define our 5 Things to Measure.

The Thief: Joe Poor steals a stereo from I. Rich. He then sells the stereo to provide food for his family. Is he great/good/bad/horrible? Depends on the lens. Obviously, his action isn’t impacting a large amount of people, so we could say by the 5 that he is already neither great nor horrible.  His intention was good – for him. The result was good – for him and his family. By community lens, though, he is bad, because he stole. He is also bad through I. Rich’s lens because, hello, he stole from him.

The Murderer: There’s a compound. In it are a lot of people that are being taken advantage of by this twisted dude (Mr. P) who thinks he is Jesus reborn, or at least purports to be. However, he’s a pervert taking advantage of a lot of impressionable people. It is a rather large group of people. Joe Schmoe is disgusted by this, and when it looks like no one is going to do anything about it, at least not quick enough to suit him, Joe manages to infiltrate the compound, and kill Mr. P. Joe had no ties to the compound at all. He was just doing what he thought needed to be done. How would he be ranked?  Impact on people: Most likely bad, at first, for the majority of the people in the compound if they were truly under Mr. P’s spell. Size of population impacted: Medium. Intention: Good. Result: Good? Ultimately, yes.. However, how does his ‘rank’ change when viewed through the community lens, the known lens, and the time lens?

The Star: We shamelessly used Angelina Jolie for this one. She’s a UNICEF ambassador, spreads awareness and such about/to 3rd world countries, donates large sums of money. Impact: Good. Population: Large. Intent: Good. Result: Good. Lens? Well, that varies. Through a community lens, she’s good. Through a known lens, she’s good. Through a time lens? We will have to wait and see. Angelina is also known for some behaviors that are not so good, such as stealing another woman’s husband. We will need more time before we can truly judge her through the time lens. Right now, though, K and I would judge her as good….but not great.

Since I gave us three examples of who we would consider to be great, here is the opposite end of the spectrum.

Who do we consider horrible? Well, I actually needed K’s help to come up with 3 people. I thought of Hitler and Osama Bin Laden pretty quickly, but the third one had me stumped. She suggested Stalin. Thanks, K!

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Using the 5 Things to Measure, do you agree with these ratings of Great and Horrible?

I think something important to recognize is that it is easier to judge great and horrible than it is to judge good and bad. I believe in God, but I do not think that we can use the 10 commandments as a hard and fast rule of measuring who is good and who is bad. People do things for a variety of reasons, and everyone has their pros and cons.

I also believe that we have to recognize that (even though we would like to) we cannot put a Rank to ourselves. We cannot say “I am a good person.” “I am a great person” “I am a bad person” “I am a horrible person” because, ultimately, it is not up to us. It is up to how other people see us.

All that we can do is make sure that we try to make sure our actions are ones that will be viewed in the way that we want them to be viewed.

But, hey, tell yourself you are a good person if it makes you feel any better. Self-delusion is one of our greatest gifts. Just listen to the little voice in your head to make sure its telling you your actions measure up to what you believe.